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Can Trump and Iran Make a Deal? (Robert Wright & Robert Malley)
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Can Trump and Iran Make a Deal? (Robert Wright & Robert Malley)

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0:00 Rob’s role in the Obama nuclear deal
1:43 A deal that could work for both Trump and Iran
12:10 Iran’s security “guarantee” problem
19:38 Bob: If I were Iran, I would say…
24:36 What Obama’s negotiators had that Trump’s don’t
29:26 How unified is the Iranian side?
37:44 Is Iran’s Hormuz leverage running dry?
41:04 Heading to Overtime

Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Robert Malley (Yale - Jackson School of Global Affairs, Tomorrow is Yesterday). Recorded April 21, 2026.

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Overtime titles:

Trump’s three ways to end the war.
The pros and cons of Trump’s psychology.
Bibi’s true war aims.
Can the new “Quartet” play peacemaker?
America’s counter-blockade as cognitive empathy lesson.
What “poisoned chalices” can—and can’t—Iran accept?

Overtime video:

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