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Bill Beckett's avatar

Do you know if there’s any truth to the rumor that Bill Clinton offered Putin NATO membership for Russia? If true that would seem to undermine some of your contextualizing hypotheses. “We respect you Vlad, we want you in the club, come on join us.”

In regard to where Putin lays on the mentally ill spectrum, IMHO, what’s more important is where he is on the character disorder spectrum. I’d say he’s definitely elevated himself to the status of a man-of-history by joining the ranks of famous men who have ruthlessly and needlessly gone to war to improve their status. He’s got more status now than he ever has—status as someone who is willing to murder children in order to earn our respect.

If one accepts your suggestion that the west has driven Putin “crazy,” the question becomes, now what do we do with this aggrieved resentment filled psychopathic monster we’ve created? We’re already showing very deep disrespect towards him and his nation. It doesn’t appear that that’s going to improve anytime soon.

Historically when some humans decide that other humans are less-than-human, bad things happen. “Those humans aren’t treating me like I’m a worthy human I’ll show them how human I am and be the worst kind of human possible.”

There is kind of a rationality to that way of thinking but it’s obviously flawed—it’s immature egoic self centered thinking. Historically these sort of high chair tyrants, who have tremendous power, have done us great harm. When have mad dogs responded to diplomacy?

Perhaps Biden should make Trump a special envoy to Russia. Trump could become our dog whisperer and calm that boy down.

LOL

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ed74siasl's avatar

I'm still reading, but I mistrust two implicit assumptions.

1, that rational and crazy are mutually exclusive states and not points on a spectrum;

2, that rational people aren't going to nuke each other.

Those might not be Bob's assumptions, but they're easy takeaways from what I've read so far.

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