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0:00 Are US-Iran talks dead?
3:58 Do normal Iranians care about the nuclear program?
6:14 Understanding Iran’s enrichment red line
9:16 Assessing the damage to Iran's nuclear facilities
11:59 Iran's decision to kick out inspectors
15:12 Could Iran build a bomb in secret?
17:26 Trump's "desultory" approach to talks with Iran
20:50 Alan's experience negotiating with the Iranians
24:07 How Obama managed to get a deal
29:08 Iran's focus on projecting strength
31:57 Does Iran really want a bomb?
34:31 Iran's dim view of international law
Recorded July 3, 2025.
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Discussed in Overtime:
Inside the room: How diplomatic talks really work.
Alan's role in the Iran talks.
How Iran makes decisions.
Alan's experience with Iranian journalists.
Iran's complex media landscape.
Overtime video:
