0:00 Cold Open
0:21 Round Two of Nonzero × Doom Debates
1:23 Trump, the FTC, and an Industry Feeling the Heat
5:37 Google Says Gemini 4 Exists
7:41 Greg Brockman Pulls His $25M from Leading the Future
12:53 The Break-Ins Keep Coming
15:23 The Market Wants Agent Swarms
18:30 The End of “Alignment by Default”
20:55 The Prelude to Recursive Self-Improvement
26:14 David Sacks Can’t Explain Dario
30:31 The All-In Echo Chamber
33:47 Scott Alexander vs. Steven Pinker
38:37 Jason Calacanis vs. the Public Benefit Corporation
43:03 The Elephant in the Room Is the AI
46:21 What the Average American Thinks
48:17 From Chatbot to Agent to Swarm
54:20 Boeing, Agent Swarms, and the Off Switch
57:07 Skynet as a Botnet That Trades With Us
1:00:32 Tyler Cowen: National Treasure, Net Negative on AI
1:04:01 Liron’s Doomer DCF Yields a 20x P/E
1:07:11 Interest Rates: Where Cowen Has Me
1:09:12 Does Pinker Owe Us a Debate?
1:12:48 Pinker vs. Instrumental Convergence
1:17:00 Wrap-Up
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Liron Shapira (Pause AI, Doom Debates). Recorded October 01, 2026.
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