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0:00 Teaser
1:01 Shadi’s path to his new book, The Case for American Power
9:51 George W. Bush’s “Freedom Agenda”
13:19 Does America’s role in Gaza undermine Shadi’s case?
16:47 Shadi’s case for US moral supremacy
23:36 What does China want?
34:19 What justifies military intervention?
40:32 Bob: International law is the answer
51:25 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Shadi Hamid (The Washington Post, https://wisdomofcrowds.live/podcast, The Case for American Power). Recorded October 29, 2025.
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Overtime titles:
0:00 More on Chinese aspirations
4:52 America, f—k yea?
9:15 How the Iraq war propelled Donald Trump’s rise
14:46 Moscow’s view of American behavior
24:42 Could the US have shaped a better Putin path?
Overtime video:
