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0:00 Elon’s reckless response to the Brown shooting
11:19 Susie Wiles gone wild
14:31 The weirdest thing about Trump’s weird Rob Reiner post
25:09 The Piers Morgan/Nick Fuentes encounter
37:58 Judging Oliver Sacks
43:26 Heading to Overtime
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Paul Bloom (https://smallpotatoes.paulbloom.net, University of Toronto, The Sweet Spot, Against Empathy). Recorded November 20, 2025.
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Discussed in Overtime:
When Bob edited Oliver Sacks.
The Jared Diamond and Napoleon Chagnon fact-checking affairs.
Is Pluribus an allegory for AI?
Other things to watch (and to skip).
Rob Reiner’s greatness.
Writing with—and for?—AI.
Overtime video:








