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0:00 Has the pace of AI progress slowed?
12:01 How the tech CEOs are learning to stop worrying
14:10 Mark Zuckerberg
22:44 Sam Altman
29:59 OpenAI’s attempt to shed its non-profit status
53:05 Dario Amodei
59:27 Heading into Overtime
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Holly Elmore (PauseAI US). Recorded September 11, 2025.
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Overtime titles:
0:00 Demis Hassabis
4:01 The singularity and Sinophobia
16:53 How do things look from China's perspective?
26:06 Elon Musk
30:21 Some AI-related cultural products
37:18 Is AI scheming research overblown?
51:35 Are people starting to get it?
